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Wisenheimers at Cisco?

I told that Wisenheimer at Cisco to take a hike, Cisco pays less than Juniper or the Channel Partners anyway!. The CCIE numbers are now in the 37k range at some point the population will reach the tipping point between need and salary devaluation.

Fri, 12/7/12 - 4:49pm    View comments

Brad after spending over two years to get my CCIE certification and countless hours (not to mention two trips to the lab) and about $15,000, I have to vent. I keep hearing in the blogosphere about how my number is the property of my employer if I should chose to leave for another job.

How that previous employer can keep my number for a year. How can one company be called a poacher while another doing the same thing is called a saint? Isn't that what the rules were made to prevent? If Cisco hired me from a channel partner that partner if forced to hire from a competitor would be penalized, while Cisco would make out. I asked a Red Badge recruiter about how this is possible and he did not understand the CCIE number association rules. Yet this same recruiter working for Manpower is sitting in a Cisco office with all the benefits of a Cisco employee actively recruiting me from a Cisco Channel Partner, claims to be oblivious of the CCIE number association concept. This Cisco Wisenheimer then told me it was OK not to worry about the rules because Cisco does not need my number.

This confusion seems calculated to install fear in my community. Why? The CCIE numbers are now in the 37k range at some point the population will reach the tipping point between need and salary devaluation. I get it, I get it, the CCIE is the leading sales element for the Cisco product line. Lucky sales people can learn all they want about products, but the luckiest are also talking to a client with Cisco cert'ed staff member, accompanied by a CCIE as his presales engineer. What a combination for success.

I have sat in sales calls with sales guys courting clients. I am surprised by the number of Cisco cert'd network engineers I meet that work for our prospective clients. I always get the same reaction when introduced as a CCIE, the IT manager/director shakes my hand vigorously and the network guy wants to prove he is just as good as me. Many clients do extend offers of employment later as they connect through LinkedIn but I like the VAR space it's more interesting.

What is amazing is the whole Cisco certification racket. All the Telcos, ISPs, Network gear manufacturers (Huawei, Juniper, Blue Coat, HP, Verizon, AT&T, BT, Avaya, etc.) are recruiting me. The acronym CCIE commands respect but it also carries a lot of recognition.

I spent my own money on my certification not to be carried as a cross but to raise as a banner. Cisco seems to think I should be controlled by this achievement preventing me from freely moving to any employer I want to work for. Even if this was legal, why do the rules regarding active recruiting of CCIEs exclude some Wisenheimer at Cisco? When a Red Badge employee sitting in a Cisco cubicle has no clue about the rules I have been warned about does that mean they are stupid or arrogant? I told that Wisenheimer at Cisco to take a hike, Cisco pays less than Juniper or the Channel Partners anyway!

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